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Who Killed The Scientists?

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Kevin presents whokilledthescientists.com, a free site he built to track a dozen or more scientists who died or went missing, many tied to NASA JPL, Los Alamos, and advanced propulsion or weapons work. He says he does not know whether a conspiracy exists and that skeptics may be right. The site features profiles, a timeline, a mind map, and twice-daily updates. Kevin highlights candidates he identified with Claude, including Charles McMillan, Philip Leonard, and William Deninger, and notes Los Alamos road crashes. He also cites Amy Eskridge's anti-gravity claims and says he plans to check possible Epstein-file links.

Mentioned whokilledthescientists.comLos Alamos National LaboratoryNASA Jet Propulsion LaboratoryNeil McCaslandAmy EskridgeCharles McMillanMonica RezaUAPJeffrey Epstein

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Yes, I built a site to keep track of all the mysterious deaths and disappearances of the 12+ scientists. You can check it out here: whokilledthescientists.com

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So, I think this story is incredibly interesting because a lot of people discredit the UFO, UAP, let's call it phenomenon or, you know, anything kind of around aliens. They kind of discredit it like out the gate. Or some people are just like, "Oh, those are like fun little conspiracies, but that's not like really anything, right?" And so, and so I think a lot of people are looking at this story and they say, and by the story I mean the dead or

missing scientists that are out there and they look at this and they say, "Wow, like there all these dead scientists That's super weird. And they're not really getting far enough into it to learn that like really these are like future technology like potentially like you know alien technologies that some of these people are working on. It's definitely around uh weapons systems and um you know NASA's involved and you know all massive massive if this conspiracy is real if this is truly a conspiracy and again I don't know if it is but if it is

then I think that this story if people are talking about it, which the government is now, like Donald Trump's talking about, Carolyn Levit, uh Cash Patel and the FBI are getting involved, which, you know, I personally think, uh, as somebody who actually wants truth, those are three people that have a long history of bungling coverups. So, I'm really interested in these people being involved, and hopefully they bungle the cover up, so maybe we'll actually get a little bit of truth. Uh, who knows? But I think that a story like this can bring

a lot of people in to what they may have discounted or discredited before, which is like anything around like sketchy UFO, UAP or nuclear weapons, right? And I think that this story is also very prevalent because of two things. One, allegedly, the Trump administration is going to release the UFO files. I don't know how much of that is true. Um, but they bought the domains and a lot of weird stuff started happening to key figures

in and around the scientific world around that subject, around the time that he had claimed that he was going to release this stuff. And this also was right around the time that the Epstein files came out and he needed distractions. So, I always just figured, oh, this UFO UAP stuff is just a distraction from, you know, Epstein because the running joke, you know, in the conspiracy world is, you know, you know, you know, a conspiracy is really bad when they bring out the aliens, right? It's the basis of the joke. And it's very true. And again to get into it, I don't know if there's

a conspiracy here. I actually don't. But it's kind of like if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it might be a duck. Kind of the same thing here. So anyway, I did a live stream the other day about this. I thought it was really super interesting. I mostly just did that live stream because I wanted to kind of show um you know creating your own data sets around a current story story that even if those data sets aren't in web you can upload your own data sets and you can go into and use web and so I was just using this story as a way to illustrate uh the power of web but then I started getting really into the story. So yesterday I

did like more research and I had uh I if you don't know I use like claude code uh LLMs and stuff. I build tools for marketing for web and buyer and uh for myself. I even made like my own fitness app and uh just for myself, right? Like or have no intentions of like selling this thing or anything like that, but um I use these AI tools and I have uh a research bot and it has like a very strict understanding of what is acceptable and not as not acceptable when doing research, when finding documents for me and things of that nature. And so,

um, I had went to Claude and it was like, there's so many components to this story. We have 12, probably more dead or missing scientists. We have all of the institutions that overlap that they worked at. Um, programs that overlap that they worked at. um and and just things that are like prevalent to like kind of what's happening in the world. And I also started thinking about like where does this like conspiracy even come from, right? And that I still got to do some digging

into. But you have to ask questions about like why are we even talking about this and why is this like kind of in the world and is this a distraction? Is this something real? I I don't know. But all I do know is that if we can all talk about it and kind of figure it out maybe together, then we could make heads or tails of this. Is this really even worth our time? The only way to do that is to start like having a resource, a resource where all of the moving parts of the case are in one kind of visual thing. And I made that for myself, right? That was my intention was like, okay, maybe I'll do some more live streams about this. Maybe

I'll do some more content around this. I want to kind of keep I'm really fascinated with this. Um, and I want to learn more. So, I'm going to keep a a dashboard that like updates itself every day. I made this dashboard. And well, I decided it's pretty easy to just buy a domain, host this thing for free, and just put it out. So, that's what I did last night. I tightened this thing up. I bought the domain and the domain is who killedthecientists.com. Yes, I'm beating you over the head with it. I'm I'm going right for the jugular. I'm not I'm I'm not pulling no punches,

right? whokilledthecientists.com. And so that's the website I made and I put it out last night and I sent it to some of my friends uh who are journalists um and uh uh you know content creators and I said, "Hey, check this out." And so this is who killedthescientist.com and it is a free resource for anybody and everybody. Let me size that up. It's a free resource for anybody and everybody who's interested in this case, right? And I'll kind of give you a walk through through it before we kind of get deep into some of the stuff here, but

it's it's wild. So you start with the only kind of tangible thing that really is the basis of this entire conspiracy and that are that's these 13 people 12 people. Today it may be 13 or even 14 people. There's uh reports I'm hearing of a father and son who passed away recently who may have also been involved in this but they're not really a part of the discussion officially yet. So, uh, they're not represented on here, but, um, you know, we'll we'll we'll see. So, here are the scientists. Uh, Michael David Hicks, Frank Maywald, Monica Resza, Anthony Chavez, Melissa Casius,

Steven Garcia, Matthew Sullivan, Amy Escridge, Nuno Laurierro, Carl Grillilmare, General Neil McCassland, who's a very, very, very central figure. um Jason Thomas and as of yesterday, David Wilcox. And you can go to these people and you can click on any of them and it'll actually bring up a little side track here with uh more information uh articles. I'm going to beef this up with uh more articles. And what I want to do is for all of these who were researchers, I actually want to put up um as many

like PDFs of their work or even just links to all of their works so you can also look at their works yourself um to kind of see what they were getting into cuz all of them were doing some heady that's way above all of our pay grades. uh but what they're doing is almost all of them have been involved in some sort of future technology. So in that regards it's pretty interesting, right? Um and we're not going to go deep into like uh who these people all are and and all that, but uh you know we'll we'll just we're just going to breeze through this page here. Uh we have recent developments. recent developments is essentially news

stories, a timeline of the most recent news stories. Uh who's talking about it, what what what are the developments um in terms of investigations for this or anything like that? Um excuse me. uh critical connections uh mass and resa uh mass who I said is also a very central figure uh to this is actually general massland um these are some of his uh connections um and this will also build out uh as we kind of link more in the research together um then we're looking at key institutions and organizations and yes

there's you uh House Oversight Committee or FBI, but there's also Special Access Program um uh or sorry, uh MIT Plasma uh Infusion Center, National Nuclear Security Administration, um uh the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Los Alamos National Laboratory, uh Wright Patterson Air Force Base, uh these different places that again uh these people that we know of are overlapping uh maybe in works projects um you know times that they work together you know on in these different institutions right and so again before we can understand what the conspiracy is

if there is a conspiracy we have to look at just basically the people because that's all we really have to work off of and then everything else is kind of reverse engineered from that so what were they working on where were they working. Um, you know, what are these other key connections, right? Um, these are just like a breakdown of kind of like what some of the people are saying like what are the general schools of thought here? Was this a foreign intelligence operation? is, you know, China or Russia like, you know, covert covertly killing all of our scientists because they're doing things that are a threat to, you know, their

things. I mean, who who knows? Um, you know, is it was this internal? Did Trump have them killed or, you know, whatever, right? CIA, who knows, right? Um, again, I think we're way too early to even start trying to figure out what the conspiracy is, right? First, we have to find out if there's a conspiracy. And we have to understand all the pieces on the table before we can play the game. And that's what this is for. This is to look at the pieces on the table, right? So, you can understand what kind of game you're playing. Uh there's a timeline of the deaths. Now you'll see we have deaths as early as June 2022.

Uh and that's important for uh a next step. I also uh built this mind map. So if you are more of a visual type person, uh these are all of the people, the programs, the the um institutions, right? NASA JPL, um, General McCassland. I mean, look at how central of a figure he is. Um, and this is just for, you know, all of these nodes are, like I said, people, programs, uh, you know, institutions, that sort of thing. Uh, and this website updates twice a day. Um, I believe at like 7:00 a.m. and sometime midafternoon. And so if there are more

people, more connections, more things uh it will update itself um every day uh twice a day to add more uh to the context of not just this map but the entire website. So if you remember I had said just a bit ago that Amy Escridge was actually the first of the scientists that we're looking at as and saying the 12 scientists right at this point. She died in June of 2022. Um, so I and and she was one of the people that she was put on the list, I think, as number 10 sometime last week. So that signals to me that

it seems like we're getting a new name like every couple of days now. It seems like almost, right? Um, or at least like a few a week. But some of those names died in 2024, 2023, 2021, 2022, right? Like it's kind of spread amongst those years. So I'm sitting here going, okay, if we really don't even understand what the nature of this conspiracy is, and the only kind of concrete thing that we have as a jumping off point are the people. Do we even have all the people? Because they're finding more people. So, I had Claude go and I essentially

said, "Look at what connects all these people together and find me people that also could have died or went missing in a similar fashion that maybe worked with some of these people, overlapped on projects, um, or whatever. find me some more people. Let's like kind of rate them and let's kind of look into it. So, I made this page so up here at the top and again at any time you can go to who killed thecientist.com and you can check this out for yourself and you can use this for your own content, your own investigations,

whatever. And this again will be updated twice a day. So if there is new information and it's not on there, it will be very soon and that is continuous and this is automatic. So you don't have to there's no like oh Kevin got wrapped up in other work and he wasn't able to update the website. No, like this is automatic and if I have to and if and if the news cycle is going crazy on this, I'll bump this up to five times a day, right? whatever whatever it is that that this can be the best resource for you to look into this this conspiracy or potential conspiracy. So if you go there right now you will see this called unreported candidates. Check that out. These are the people

that could also be a part of this conspiracy. and and I made a little dossier about every one of them and to how they might fit in. And so, uh, you know, we won't go through all of them, but we'll go through like the top ones, like the ones that like are looking pretty likely, right? But you also got to understand too like we have this mand alloy uh which is another mega project uh that was spearheaded by Neil McCassland and uh Monica uh Resza that is a key project

sitting at the center of this conspiracy. Um and so there are other people that may have been involved in this. Um one this first person Dallas an Hardwick she actually died in 2014. So this is significantly before all of this but she was one of the inventors of Mandeloy. She worked at Wright Patterson, right? And uh a lot of these which it'll say here like AFRL published no memorial uh you know if they worked with um you know any of these institutions like NASA or Los Alamos and they die mysteriously or whatever or even you know they say like well we we solved the case there's almost never an acknowledgement

from the institutions which is kind of weird. That's not normal, right? That is that is uh not at all normal. And so uh this is a fascinating little read too. So we have other people like Dallas and Hardwick uh Monica uh Resza who who we do know uh from this um original 12. She's one of the original 12. Uh she's missing since last year. and uh Neil McCasslin. So there's this other person Dallas and Hardwick who even though uh Dallas had passed away in 2014

I think that there is uh there is I think an undeniable connection um considering that she co-invented Mond alloy um and and worked with two central figures from this conspiracy So uh so so that person Dallas and Hardwick uh very I think important um character here and we'll kind of go through these top three uh strongest candidates first. So we have uh Charles McMillan who is uh the 10th director of uh uh I'm calling it Lannel the Los Alamos National

Laboratory. Uh, I think it's easier to say Lannel. I I wonder if that's what they say. I may get corrected by people until I get corrected. It's Lannel. Uh, so this person died in uh September of 2024, age 69, in a head-on collision. And uh you'll see with a lot of these the people that died that worked at Lannel, a lot of them died on the same road in the same way, more or less. And there's a number of them. Uh and so this is the Los Alamos crash

corridor. This is a a single road that goes in and out and it's the only road into Lannel and somehow people keep dying. Scientists keep dying going in or out of work. Um and uh and I'm going to investigate that a little bit more. We like pull up maps and stuff, but like it's uh pretty sketchy. pretty sketchy that these scientists are all dying like the same way. Now I know the skeptics will say like well you know how many people die on a road in a year and like and they all worked at the same place so like you know sure there's maybe a statistical

you know chance and this isn't so much of an anomaly but like sure about that. So Charles Mc McMillan uh was a former director of the same lab where Chavez and Casius would later vanish vanish 23 years at Lawrence Liverour, 18 years at Lannel, including six as director overseeing the US nuclear deterrent. Uh he was actively consulting for Lannel and serving on Sandia Labs review committees when he was killed at 5:16 a.m. on the road leading into Lannel. This is super sketchy. The driver that

killed him said she did not remember what caused her to cross the center line and there was no cause ever established. Nothing. The story went dead and it was never acknowledged by Lannel. Nothing. and he worked there as a director for years and he was there for new US nuclear deterrent. That's pretty key, right? He died exactly nine months before Chavez vanished vanished from the the same area, right? And he was elected to lead the Nuclear Security Enterprise Integration Council.

And this person oversaw all nuclear weapon institutions. That is everything. This person was the head honcho of everything. Everything that touched our nuclear program. If there's a conspiracy, this guy is raising some bells and raising some flags on this conspiracy. Call me crazy. I don't know. You tell me. But I think this person and this death is every bit

as as valid as any of the other 12. And I think that, you know, I posted this today. I discovered this last night. So I made I, you know, I made an Instagram post about this. I got my website here. I'm hope it's on the way back machine. Uh, you know, I got this live stream showing like today I put this out and it's timestamped and you can see I am telling you, mark my words, Charles F. McMillan will be a name that you hear in the news very soon. Dr. Philip William Leonard is an high explosive synthesis chemist at Lannel. Okay. PhD in organic chemistry at UC

Berkeley with 48 published papers underneath him died February 27th, 2024, age 44 in a car crash outside of Los Alamo. So not on the same road, but another car crash. Uh so he's a high explosive synthesis chem chemist at Lannel since 2009 meaning he designed and synthesized the explosive components used in nuclear weapon triggers. Now, you got to ask yourself, have we been hearing recently something about like nuclear weapons and I don't know, I mean, was it was it the president had

Oh, that's right. The president threatened to use nuclear weapons for the first time in like 80 years on Iran. And all of these people who were deeply integrated into the nuclear program of the United States all mysteriously died. I'm sure that probably isn't I I I'm probably just tinfoiling. I I don't think there's actually any evidence of that. Um yeah, I'm just rambling. I'm just rambling, guys. So anyway, this died guy died in a multi- vehicle vehicle crash on the same road corridor

as McMillan 7 months later. Oh, so okay. So he did die on that same road and it was two years to the day before. So he died on February 27th of 2024. McCassland, General McCassland, who I keep saying is a central figure in this potential conspiracy, died exactly two years to the day after Mr. Leonard, Dr. Leonard. I'm sure I'm positive

that that has nothing to do with each other. Super positive of that. Um and then the last of these strong candidates for people that are likely going to be named uh you know that I mean who knows this could be 13, 14, and 15 for all I know is Dr. William Deninger. He was a technical fellow BAE systems space and missions systems former JPL that's NASA the jet propulsion labs at NASA scientist plasma physicist AIA associate fellow. So, um, again, this is another one where I'm pretty sure when he died,

the NASA did not acknowledge him publicly, even though this guy worked for 7 years at JPL. Um, so a JPL alum and plasma physicist who spent seven years at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory before moving through Italian aerospace giant Fiat AIO and Ball Aerospace, which are defense contractors, and ultimately BAE Systems, pay attention to this, maker of electronic warfare and directed energy systems. systems could be interchanged with weapons, directed energy weapons.

I don't know. Totally doesn't sound like anything. Honestly, I'm just reacting weirdly because that's totally a nothing burger. Um, he died in June 20 June 21st of 2025. Um, and then the very next day, Monica Resza from uh the the Mond Alloy, who's also very deeply entrenched with uh McCassland. She went missing the very next day. Nobody's ever found her. Nothing at all. Right. No cause of death given of course because that's totally what happens to when people just totally normally die in

a totally normal way you know uh no cause cause of death given in the AIA obituary notice uh unusual for professional memorial right uh and uh yeah the the rest of that's not really all that interesting These are people that are entwined in these programs, scientists, and institutions that on the first page I outlined, right? I do think that we will hear these names

in the news soon. Charles McMillan, Philip Leonard, and William Deninger. Um, there's also a little timeline for the Los Alamos crashes. Um, even going so far as to like, you know, talking about other crashes that had happened around the same time. Um, you know, DOE installs four traffic cameras on East James Road in response to several complaints, near misses, accidents, injuries, unfort uh fatalities. Um, so

for the uh the naysayers or the ones who want to say that, you know, any of us who are looking into this and calling us cooks or whatever, um, sure there's maybe there's maybe a plausible answer for everything. People die, you know. People who aren't scientists for jet propulsion labs die too. Sure. But a lot of things just seem a little suspicious. And we live in a world now where we have

the internet, we have AI, we have independent journalists. I'm certainly not one of them, but we have all these people and these tools and we have a lot of people noticing a lot of things and uh maybe maybe uh maybe if we just talk it out, we'll figure this out. or we'll figure out if there's if it's absolutely nothing. It could be absolutely nothing. I've said that multiple times in this live stream. It very well could be

nothing. Just a coincidence. I don't personally think that that's the case. I'm always open to hearing a wellthoughtout reason as to how this is not a conspiracy. Right. So, the hardest the hardest thing I just saw Marine Blood say, "Hey, Kevin, could we get a link to the website?" Um, let me see. It is who killedthecientist.com.

Yeah. Who killedthecientists.com? Pretty in yourrface with that name. Uh do do we do I even think that we're going to ever figure that out? I have no idea. Probably not. But I think we can um like I said, if we talk about it, if we don't let them flood the zone and memory hole this thing, uh we might be able to uh we might be able to come closer to understanding, you know, we might become closer to understanding this scientific like black science sort

of uh web that our tax dollars, you know, fund all these things that we're like not allowed to know about, but we pay for. We may get a better understanding of things. I don't know. Can't know until we do it, right? And so I think that now we're seeing a lot of people over the last week talking more and more about this. And that's why I made uh this website. And again, I I want you all to use it um as a resource, as a as a as a central place to um you know, to learn about

what's going on to, you know, to to stay informed because uh this is this I think is I think this story has legs. I really do. I think the story has legs. I think um I think there really is a conspiracy, you know. Um Amy Escridge for years before she passed away had had talked like openly about the potential danger she was in doing anti-gravity research. You know, there's a there's a video. You know what? In fact, I'm gonna pull it up

because I think uh I think it's it's it's worth watching. Let me um Amy Scritch. Let me find this. But essentially what she had said, "Oh, shut up, Tim Pool. I don't care about you." Um, pulling this up here. I'm gonna put myself there. Create this new scene.

Um, and that's what I was saying like, "Shut up, Tim." Um, Liberty Lockdown. Awesome. Awesome, dude. I got to watch that video. Uh, where I'm just trying to find if there's any videos of her. Is it this one? Yeah. So, this is a long one. Um, I was kind of hoping to maybe get just like the clip. Um but anyway, this woman essentially what she had said, what she had claimed was that four other people before her had

organically like her discovered like the inner workings of or the secrets of anti-gravity. Um, which anti-gravity is, I mean, they don't admit these things, right? It's potentially reverse engineered alien technology, right? Like that's if you're into the UFO world, if you're into that, that's what anti-gravity is essentially. It is reverse engineered alien technology. That is why, you know, these UFOs or UAPs could like

be going a thousand miles an hour and then just go over here and just do this, right? Like they can zigzag and go in any direction. I mean, it's it's a propulsion that like we literally have never had, you know, in our society at all. So since we don't know enough about it and because they're kind of hush- hush about this kind of stuff, you know, uh a theory, maybe even a prevailing theory is that these are, you know, Area 51 type reverse engineering programs. I don't know. and she I don't I've never seen her say anything specifically about like working on alien craft or anything

like that, but um I haven't watched like all of her stuff, but what she had said was that or what she claimed was that four other people before her, and this is what she was told by another person within the government of some sort. Uh, and I haven't seen this video in a while, so I'm trying to pull it off my memory, but I believe she said something around this. She was told that four other people were basically silenced who had discovered uh these anti-gravity technologies before. And

she had a couple of people talk to her. Some of them would say things like, "You're in immense danger because these other people had found this stuff and they were silenced." Whatever silence means. And the other people are saying if you haven't been contacted at all by the government or any of these like shadow agencies or anything like that, then you're then you might be the one that they let do it. The theory meaning that at some point we may for whatever reason release this technology, use this technology,

whatever. So we need to let somebody get to completion. And so maybe that's you. And in this video, she talks about the dichotomy of that. And this is years before she died. So, who knows? I certainly don't know. But there might be something there. There might be something there. So again, uh I wanted to use web today and I wanted to do a little bit more with that, but we'll save that for

another live stream because um I just have a theory. I have a hunch, especially with some of the stuff that I've I've seen um regarding Epstein, is there may be some connections there between some of these programs and Epstein's funding. And some of this stuff goes in line with u some of the things from Epstein's emails. I have not made any connections like that yet or anything like that, but I

have a sneaking suspicion that there may be there may potentially be some connections. And I definitely want to go through that on stream together using web. Um, I didn't use web today, but web is such a great resource. Um, you can get these documents, you can load them in yourself, or you can go to any of our data sets. Uh, we just, uh, put up like 200 and something uh, true crime cases. Uh, we're going to continually put more true crime cases in there. There's, uh, thousands thousands upon thousands of them. But uh we uh we have those those really great data sets and then like I said you can upload

your own data sets which is interesting and that's what I did is I created my own data sets of all these different scientists works their obituaries you know things of that nature start putting them in and let's start making connections right and uh that's where some of uh this information is is coming from as well on the site. So, uh yeah, I want to I want to load up my data set. I'm I'm adding to my data set. Uh I still have to add um uh David Wilcox and all of his work to the data set. And um and then I want to merge that data set with the Epstein files data set

and see what's in there because there's a lot of emails about all these scientific ventures and grants and things that he had had been involved in and also all these emails where he's talking to people about like weird science stuff like future science you know, on some like really weird weird weird weird stuff. So, I'm not ruling that out. And I watched this interesting video last night um where this guy was kind of making claims that there were also uh I was already thinking about these potential connections and he was talking about uh this potential connection. So, uh I want

to investigate that myself. Um, and I think on stream could be a lot of fun, right? And then we can kind of like see what web's really all about together. Um because you know that is an integral tool to like learning about things across vast amounts of documents which I mean all of these scientists have so many published papers like some of them one of them 48 published papers right so it's like there's so many things to kind of go through and a lot of their work is like super heavy like you know, flux capacitor type sh type type So like I, you know, I need

like this thing to kind of like explain it to me too because like I'm I'm not that deep into those, you know, the science of propulsion. I probably know a lot more than a lot of people, but that is still like a grain of sand of knowledge compared to like what's probably in those documents. So yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see if there's any connection there. Um, but at the end of the day, I think there's a lot of meat on the bone. There's a lot of meat on the bone of this conspiracy. And right now, we don't even know what kind of animal this bone is from, right? So, um, all we can really do is try to

make sense of it. Now, that's like really all that's like the whole thing. And I think that uh who killedthescientist.com is going to be a great resource for much smarter people than myself to start putting more of these connections together. And uh and maybe together we'll we'll figure this out. you know, maybe, you know, maybe a month from now we all just kind of look at it and go like, maybe there's nothing here or this could be, you know, as big a story as Jeffrey Epstein. I I don't really know. I don't want to make it

anything that it's not. I just want to look into it and see what it is and, you know, do my part to figure out what it is because this is an interesting story. Um, and I think it's going to lead us into some very weird places. So, you know, let's get in some weird places together. Let's let's let's do this together. And so yeah, uh pretty crazy that I started with uh no mic on. You live and you learn. That'll never happen again. Uh but for those of you that stuck it through uh who are

watching this later, thank you. Um super stoked to have you here. Um these are all like incredibly new pages. Um like some of them even just started like the other day. So thank you for being here, being a part of it, being early. Um and uh yeah, go to who killed the scientist.com. Go to the web.io io. And if you uh if you eat food, if you're one of those people that eat food, you can also check out the buyer app, bu apostrophe r. Um that's a good way to learn who's making the food that you're buying. What are you supporting? Uh what

are you putting into your body? Um that's also important. That's also a part of it, right? It's part of the system. So yeah, go check out any of those websites. Uh I appreciate that immensely. These this these three things are like my life's work now. So, um, super, you know, appreciative for you to go check those things out and, uh, otherwise, you know, just, uh, stay safe out there and, uh, thanks for tuning in and, uh, I will probably do another live stream this weekend if there's any more information or, you know, build out the website a little bit more. We can go over some some of like the new

discoveries um that myself and other people um are putting

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