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What Connects These Scientists Together?- Using Webb to Investigate.
What this video covers
Kevin uses the Webb document-research tool in his first livestream to investigate a cluster of 12 US scientists and officials with ties to classified aerospace, nuclear and UAP programs who died or vanished between 2022 and 2026. He lists the cases, including Amy Eskridge and Major General William Neil McCasland, and reports that Webb links seven of them to the Air Force Research Laboratory. Kevin also reviews skeptical arguments about mortality rates and cherry-picking, and says he suspects a conspiracy but admits the cause is unknown. He presents the cluster as unproven and open to investigation.
Mentioned WebbNeil McCaslandAmy EskridgeAir Force Research LaboratoryWright-Patterson Air Force BaseUAPMonica RezaNuno LoureiroMarconi scientists
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Welcome to my first live stream on this channel. Um, I've actually done some live streams before um under some other platforms and I actually have a history of doing um internet radio of all things back in the day kind of before podcasting things of that nature. So Yeah, I was super stoked to be here and to talk to you guys and show you a little bit more about web cuz that's really what this is all about is how do we use this really cool technology that we built called web to investigate interesting things.
And so if you don't know who I am I'm Kevin. No, I am not Ian and yes, Ian is alive. And yeah, so I've been wanting to start doing some more live streaming and putting out more content of my own here. So this is kind of like the first you know, little foray into that. And if you don't know, I am one of the owners of both the web and the buyer app. So this is what we do. All day is we build technology to get information real true information
into people's hands. So they can look up and you know, confirm or disconfirm anything that's out there themselves. So you don't have to just trust what somebody tells you. You can check it yourself. And do a little bit more than just hit in Google, right? So if you don't know web is this really awesome technology that we made. Yes, it is AI. No, it doesn't hallucinate. A lot of people get really weird about AI especially in the information space because it hallucinates. It makes things up. Uh, web
actually has to give you the document that it source. It has to cite the document, give it to you whenever it makes a claim. And if it does not have the document to back it up, it cannot make the claim. So we've effectively when it comes down to these data sets and what you're looking at there's no hallucination. Which makes it a really valuable tool when it comes to doing investigative work where truth matters and where hallucinations poison the well, poison the data sets. And if you don't know, web is this really cool thing that
takes large data sets. It could be millions of documents like say the Epstein files. And you can start asking questions, right? So if you were to go through a large data set, you would be asking questions, right? You would have questions in your mind and then you would go to find the answer to those questions and that could be one page, five page, 100 pages, 1,000 pages, a million pages. However many pages it would be you need that much to get the context to actually answer your own question with any level or degree of you know,
relevancy. So what web does is we take these large data sets and you can just start asking questions and then it gives you the answers in real time citing its sources, bringing up the documents and then providing more tools for you to put all those things together and to look at them however you so choose. If you're a more visual person or if you like to read, there are different ways that you can interact with this which is really cool and we're going to get into that here in a minute. But for right now this particular live stream is the first of probably many that I'm going to do on
this topic and that is the mysterious deaths or uh what people missing, right? The people are missing or they're dead and there's about 12 of them as of today and they're all scientists who have worked around the around classified rather UFO UAP technologies, right? And this is just really interesting. It's really interesting timing too because the government has actually said that they are going to do disclosure now. If you follow the UFO UAP world
especially if you're on X, you probably fall in you know, one of a couple of different camps. But generally speaking, we have different figures out there who have been saying that they are working on disclosure. They might be from the government in some capacity and there have been what I would say is the illusion of disclosure over time. Um, but you know, who really knows, right? With the absence of real information, who really knows? But in recent months, people have started noticing and they've noticed that since about 2022
up until today, there have been all of these mysterious deaths [snorts] of these scientists. And let's kind of go through some of them, get a little bit of a understanding of what this story is and then we'll dive into web and start asking questions. Um, and so yeah, we'll kind of start with a little precursor understanding of what's happening here. Okay, so this entire situation is a cluster of at least 12 that we know of American scientists, researchers and military officials all with ties to classified nuclear aerospace and UAP which is the new
version of UFO if you're not familiar. It's a unidentified aerial phenomenon instead of unidentified flying objects, right? So these scientists have all been linked to UAP programs, aerospace and nuclear. They've all died or vanished without explanation between the years 2022 and 2026. The pattern has now triggered a formal FBI investigation, White House acknowledgement, and a congressional deadline that actually expires today. And if we know anything about how this administration is handling deadlines, uh let's not hold our breath on that. So
who are the 12 people and you know, we're going to dive deeper into all of these people over probably many live streams because there's so much information. I really just want this one to be kind of like a precursor. Like just let's let's dip our toes in. Let's sort of understand what's going on here. Okay. So and these are in no particular order. All right. So we have Michael David Hicks who actually worked for NASA for 24 years. He died in July of 2023 and there's no cause, no autopsy, and no
NASA statement. And what you'll see is that's pretty common that there is no NASA statement. Uh, there's Frank Maywald also NASA. He was a principal researcher. He died in July of 2024 age 61. Again no cause, no autopsy, and no NASA statement. Anthony Chavez Los Alamos National Lab. He vanished in May of 2025. There's Monica Reza, the JPL director of materials processing, co-inventor of the Mondaloy rocket superalloy. She vanished in June of 2025 during a hike.
And there's Melissa Cassius also from Los Alamos with top security clearance. She vanished in June 2025. Both of her phones were factory wiped before she left. That's not suspicious at all. Uh, Stephen Garcia a nuclear weapons contractor with KCNSC. He vanished in August of 2025. He left home on foot carrying a handgun and he was never found. Jason Thomas Novartis cancer researcher missing December 2025 found dead in a lake in March of 2026. And of course
there's no foul play suspected whatsoever. Now, this one, which hits a little bit more close to home and was a little bit of a bigger story, Nuno Loureiro Loureiro, I I'm probably mispronouncing that. He was a MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center director. He was murdered in his home in December 2025. Uh so, he was in MIT, so that means he's in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I actually used to live really close to both MIT and Harvard. Knew a lot of people uh in both of those institutions. Now, if you remember in December, there was a shooting at
Brown University in Rhode Island. And somehow, a day or so after that shooting, this guy got shot. And it just so conveniently was that the person suspected of shooting up Brown University, which they couldn't find him for a few days. Um and they they hadn't they couldn't identify who he even was. Uh this person shot, I believe, two people in Brown or killed two people at Brown University. I think he shot a few more. And then, he decided to go to MIT um shoot his former classmate, Nuno, and
then went to New Hampshire and killed himself. Um that is a really, really strange story. Probably do an entire live stream just about that um and what he was up to and the people around, you know, that technology. Um it's uh it's pretty sketchy. And so, uh again, we're not going to go super deep. I just want to kind of give you guys a little a little preview of what this is, kind of get our feet a little wet here. Uh so, to continue, there's Carl Grillmair, Caltech astrophysicist, NEOWISE asteroid tracking, murdered in February of 2026, shot on his porch. Um
Neil Mc- McCasland, retired USAF, that's the Air Force, Major General, former commander of AFRL at Wright-Patterson, disappeared in just this past February, 4 days after Trump's US UAP disclosure order. So, if you don't know, um when all of these Epstein files came out, they the Trump administration, I believe Trump even himself had said, "We're going to get into disclosure. We are going to release the UFO files." is what he says. He That just shows how out of date he is because we don't even call it UFO anymore. The government actually refers to it as UAP. So, they were going to
release the UAP files and uh we at Web had said, "Hey, if they release these large files, we are going to download them. We are going to put them in the Web, and we are going to start researching this stuff." Uh that hasn't happened yet, but the government did buy aliens.gov and alien.gov, which kind of signals to people that, you know, these uh quote unquote this disclosure will happen. We'll see what happens there. Um there's two more. There's Matthew Sullivan, Air Force intelligence officer at Wright-Patterson, died May 2024, age 39, supposedly by suicide 2 weeks before his scheduled UAP whistleblower testimony to
Congress. That sounds totally normal. Um that doesn't sound suspicious at all, actually, um when you really don't think about it. Uh and then, uh the final one, uh which is somebody that I actually probably will focus a little bit more on lately just because I I have a bit of more of an understanding of her story, and that is Amy Eskridge. She was an anti-gravity researcher from Huntsville, Alabama. She died in June 2022, age 34, reported self-inflicted gunshot. No official investigative reports has ever been released. It said publicly that she was scared and felt escalating aggression towards her work before she died. Now,
to actually we'll like so, we'll go deeper into it, but she had actually said that she was discovering a certain type of technology that people in the government had told her that there were four other people who had organically come across these things, and all of them had been silenced. And so, that she should be careful, but then she had claimed that some other people people people in the government were saying that, "Well, if you haven't been reached out and they haven't said anything to you, they might actually let you do it. Maybe it's the time." And so, she seemed very conflicted by these different videos that I had seen of her. Um but yeah, really, really weird. And
she's kind of like the perfect uh sort of you know, allegory, I guess, to this entire thing, right? So, here are some of the patterns. Four of these people walked out of their homes on foot. McCasland, Garcia, Cassius, and Chavez. Without phones, in some cases armed, and they just disappeared, and nobody ever found them. Three are connected to NASA JPL. Hicks, Miyawaki, and Reza. All died or vanished. NASA issued zero statements on any of them. And that is super weird. Uh New Mexico is a hub. Now, what else
was going on in New Mexico? Oh. Epstein had a little place called Zorro Ranch, and he was actually super involved in scientific studies. Now, I don't know if there's a connection, but maybe in another live stream, we should bring the Epstein files and my data set here for these guys and see if there's maybe some connections. But anyway, New Mexico, Chavez, Cassius, Garcia, and McCasland all connected to the Albuquerque-Los Alamos KCNSC nuclear corridor. Two died before scheduled congressional testimony. That's uh uh Sul- Sullivan, the UAP whistleblower,
and potentially others. Uh McCasland vanished 4 days after Trump's US UAP disclosure directive, having overseen every classified special special agent program in the DOD. Uh excuse me. McCasland directed or McCasland directly funded Monica Reza's Mandalay research. They were operationally connected, and both wound up missing. Wright-Patterson keeps appearing. McCasland commanded it, Sullivan worked there, and three other AFRL personnel died in a murder-suicide there in October 25. And that's separate
from these other 12. Yeah. A murder-suicide in October 2025, that's totally normal. Uh the institutional response this week, Trump called it So, this is all pretty new. If you don't know, uh different news outlets and journalists have been talking about this and writing stories about these coincidences. And um uh Karoline Leavitt was actually directly asked about this. Um At first, she kind of was like, "Oh, there's nothing really to see here." And now, uh because of mounting pressure,
honestly, from people, from journalists, um which is the way that things get done, there's actually things happening now. So, Trump uh just this week called it pretty serious stuff, and he said he hoped it was random, and told reporters his administration will have answers within a week and a half, which is oddly specific. Um you know, and I think in that same 2 weeks, he's supposed to be um you know, finishing the war that he said was over. But you know, we'll we'll see. It's a busy week for for you boy Trump. Um White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that no stone will be unturned. The FBI announced it is
spearheading the effort to look for connections. The NNSA, the Nuclear Security Agency, said it is looking into the matter. House Oversight Chairman James Comer called it a likely national security threat and said it's very unlikely this is a coincidence. His committee issued a formal briefing deadline to the FBI, DOD, DOE, and NASA. And that's today. But um you know, I'm on the West Coast. Uh so, it would be like 3 hours ago, 4 hours ago, 2 hours ago. I don't know when is the end of day in Washington, D.C., but that is already
come and gone, and to my understanding this hasn't happened. DOD's prior response to committee staff, there are no active national security investigations into any of the missing persons. Congress called that answer insufficient. And so, there's much more to this. I mean, there tons of different possibilities here, theories, you know, whether it be foreign intelligence, internal suppression ahead of the UAP disclosure, or they're just literally unconnected coincidences that are being aggregated together. And, you know, the people who say that
say, "Well, this is, you know, not like this all happened this month. This is a over 4 years, right?" So, so we'll see. So, let's go into Web here. And check this out. So, what I did was I created a bot with Claude code to scrape the internet for documents, okay? And I said, "Here are the people. Here's the situation." Find me some of their most recent works, like their publications, you know, anything that's public out there.
These are scientists, so they will have publications, and they will be public publications. And so, you know, there's going to be some stuff there. I also want to look at, you know, any uh available autopsy information or obituaries, things of that nature, so we can kind of get, you know, somewhat of a round understanding of these people, right? And so, you know, I did a I I I I did a, you know, about 20 minutes here where Oh, so over it. Hi. Hey. Thanks. Thanks for being the first comment.
Um that was probably a little bit ago, but I missed it. But, hi. So good to see you, So Over It. I, too, am so over it. So, let's just kind of start a little, you know, dip our toes just a little bit here into tell me the connections of all 12 of these people. And so, you can ask Web a question, and it shows you, and you'll see here on the right-hand side here, you will see how it is doing its research, right? What it's looking at,
how long it takes it to look at these things. And we we trained this thing to like think like a journalist, right? This is how you ask questions. This is how you dig into primary sources. Um and so, a lot of this answer probably going to be a lot of what I already said, but maybe even a little bit deeper in some of these things. But, as you can see, we've already got a nice little dossier happening here about who the people are, what their connections are. And then, what you'll see is when this is done, you see all these little weird like, okay, there
they are. See these red numbers? These are every one of these are documents or pages of documents that support the thing. So, remember earlier when I said that it doesn't hallucinate, it can't make things up, right? If it claims something, then Web has to give you the document that it sourced that information from. Okay? And so, you'll see here, okay, the complete list of 12 scientists. We've gone through all of them, but each one of them has a document or two, right? Um So, Amy Eskridge, you know, here she is, and this is just
one page of an entire [snorts] presentation, it seems. So, you can go deep into what her research was and things of that nature. It's probably above all of our pay grades, not a big deal. Um but you get you you get what it is, right? Now, if we wanted to, let's go back to the original page. Whoop. So, I could put this right on a canvas, right? So, this is a canvas where I can take this information and start building out
mind maps. Right? Start making connections. If you're a visual person, that's what this canvas feature is for. And you should see Ian's canvases for any of the topics, but particularly um Epstein. It's it is it's insane, honestly. Um So, we've got Amy, we've got Frank Mywald. Um You know, oh, so these are some news articles that are showing the different timelines
here. Uh Anthony Chavez, Monica Reza. So, I think this is a lot of this is pulling from that that one article, but if you see over here, we have uh you know, every one of these people have uh you know, many document sets for each one of them, right? Uh over here on the left. And you could go through, and, you know, you can start picking uh different different articles, uh different uh things about these people over here. Um
oh, that one is a broken link. So, here we go. And these are some of the uh this is a Frank Mywald's uh some of his research here. Um again, I I couldn't read that if I if I tried. Uh but you get kind of the understanding here. This, Web, can read all of this and then distill it down for a dummy like me. Um So, anyway, you know, and this is uh some of Nuno's work, actually. Um
which is really cool. Um Nuno being the MIT guy. Very interesting stuff. Uh key connections and relationships. So, going deeper into like what I was saying earlier, uh the NASA JPL network had both Monica Reza, Frank Mywald, Carl Grillmair, and Amy Esridge's father was a retired Nas- NASA plasma scientist with the NASA JPL network, which is super interesting. I didn't know that, actually. Um so, Air Force Research Lab, the AFRL, Los Alamos, uh Mandal- Mandaloy Technology Chain.
So, kind of looking at um I don't just want to go over uh uh these very interesting stories. I also want to show you what Web does, right? How powerful Web really is. Is I can now, or you, or we, or any of us, we can research as if we had a research team under us, and we can now get answers at the speed that we have questions, right? Um like all of this took what? A minute? Minute and a half to give us this entire thing. And that's just one question, right? Uh look at this. Timeline patterns.
What's missing from the records? Okay, here we go. You know, suspicious patterns noted. Timing coincidences. Three events in 22 days in February 2026. Yeah, that's that's what sparked this whole thing, right? Was there was these three incidences all within February, and that's where like the reporting really comes from. Is from people noticing that these things are happening, and then they look back and say, "Well, what are other recent mysterious deaths and disappearances from people who are doing the same thing, or maybe in the same location,
things of that nature, right? Um and then when you get to the end of the of you know, your chat of just one question here, it'll give you these other things that to look into, you know, it'll be like like prompts that you could do to to further your research. Uh Monica Reza's Mandaloy invention was funded by the AFRL under McCaffrey's command. What other projects connected these scientists through defense contracts? That's actually really good. I'm not even going to look at the other questions. I just really like that. Um I I I actually I'm wondering that myself, right? What are more of the connections, right? Did
so-and-so work on one of these projects in the past? Um And you know, then went and worked on something else. I mean, you really don't know, right? And for the six of you that are here, um thank you for for being here. It's awesome. Um Sherry, okay, so over at Sherry, I'm the one who had to make sure Ian was alive on X. But hey, hope y'all having a wonderful day. I I don't know which one that is because we have been getting flooded with uh messages of concern for Ian. Um I can
say conclusively Ian is perfectly fine. Um he's just uh has his own uh things that he's um you know, doing and dealing with and um you know, but he is alive and he is well and I'm sure he will be back soon uh to to add uh more levity into the confusion of the world right now. Uh I I agree with you all, we need him uh now more than ever with the war and things like these mysterious scientist deaths and and all these different things out there. Um You you'd it peop- people people need him. People need him. So, uh you know,
we I I too am looking forward to when Ian starts doing more content again. Um but in in the meantime, I can tell you conclusively he is totally fine. I spoke to him recently. Um he's good. So, and I'm sure he really appreciates the concern and the love that he has gotten from so many of you. Uh Yeah. It's it's you know, it's a lot. And so, uh yep, I know and thank you for answering the ones I tagged. But thank you for your hard work, Kevin. Needs another social media profile. Yeah, so um a lot of people have been actually asking that I have that I, you know, do um
an X account. Uh I actually do have an X account, but it's it's kind of old. And so, if you if you if you if you don't know, um I actually had for almost 15 years worked in the cannabis industry. Um that's that's kind of where I come from. And so, in that industry, people know me. Um I worked with a lot of the biggest brands and and you know, thrown events and like done all sorts of stuff. And so, I have an X account that I started in 2011 when I worked for RAW Rolling Papers. Um and that account has been around forever and
I kind of come in and I'll be in there for like 6 months a year and then I'll hop out for like a year or two and then I hop back in. It's just not that great of a page, honestly. And a lot of people who follow me are like from cannabis or like the music industry, things that and like all people that I kind of like work with and stuff. So, it's kind of more of just like a a personal page at this point. Um and I may go in there every once in a while. But the reality is is that we not only have the web, which you see here, um but we also have another app uh called the buyer app. And I do all of the marketing for both of these brands. Uh because you got to remember that our team, we have four people, right? Four
people for both of these companies, right? Four people in total that work on these projects. Um and obviously Ian's very busy doing all of the media and stuff that he does, right? And so, you know, we're very you know, we're very locked in, we're very focused and you know, we're we're locked into these projects. So, um you know, I'm going to be doing more live streaming and stuff uh around these type of topics. And um you know, what I call like fun conspiracies, you know, uh less like Israel owns the world and more like, you know, Sasquatches and like reptilian
humanoids and things of that nature because that stuff's really fun and you know, um uh you know, a good little um you know, uh palate cleanser from the uh just the absolute madness of the world that we live in right now. Um and I don't really need to be you know, What does it say? Can we call you Kevin as a human and does it at all? I love buyer. All right, does it all. Yeah, you [clears throat] sure, you know, um Yeah, so in in the whole like Kevin is human thing is actually really funny. Um this is more of a future thing, right? I
feel like um And we're kind of getting off topic here, but uh I just sort of believe that there's this Ouroboros effect of the internet and AI that's kind of happening. Where uh you know, once AI got onto the internet and started training on the internet and then people started using AI to create content to put out on the internet that then was trained is then into the feedback loop of training AIs and that becomes this cyclical thing that it's actually making the internet worse and kind of bloated.
Um and you know, I spend all of my time on social media. Um since you know, on literally every platform I have been on ever since their inception, essentially, right? And uh and you just see it where it's it's almost unusable. Um some social media platforms at this point are unusable. Um and becoming increasingly more unusable as time goes because of this uh Ouroboros effect. And Ouroboros is a snake eating its own tail, right? And uh and this is what's happening. And so, I think that what is going to be happening soon is people are only really going to
respond to human creators. I think that that's going to be like really important. Um in the I think near future. And so, I'm just kind of being cheeky with it and being like Kevin is a human because I'm a human and that's going to be like the differentiator. And so, I don't want some other Kevin to take that name in the future because I think it's actually really important. And somebody already took Kevin human and I was like, god damn it. So, Kevin is a human, but it I think it's appropriate for the world that we're going into. Um and you know, I'm sure in future live streams we'll talk about AI and the state uh of of social media and the internet at at a
whole. And um you know, I'm sort of like a futurist where I I look at patterns and I look at, you know, what's kind of happening and and what's happened in the past and how does that inform the future. Um and I have a lot of opinions about the internet, social media, AI, um and all these things. Um I think AI actually might kill us all, but you know, who knows. Uh I did just read a book called If Anybody Builds It, Everybody Dies, which is a fascinating book. Um and I'm not saying that AI is definitely going to kill us, but you never know. Uh but it's funny because I also have been a part of building this AI platform web. Um
but I feel really good about this because, you know, one of the biggest things for me is that this does not hallucinate at all. Uh it has to cite its sources. Um it has to back up any claim with facts. And um and that I think is something that's desperately missing being you know, being missed from all of like the other LLMs if you use AI. Uh most people haven't. You know, um I understand that I'm in like the very top percent of people who have ever used this type of stuff. Excuse me, allergy season. It's really bad.
But, let's look into this this next answer here. Oh, this is this is quite a lot, you know. Um [snorts] So, the connections, right? So, remember we said Monica Reza's Mandalay invention was funded by the AFRL under McCaslin's command. What other projects connected these scientists through defense contracts? So, the defense contract connections beyond Mandalay. Air Force Research Laboratory, the AFRL. Now, that is very important to this
story. So, you got to understand what the AFRL is. Air Force Research Laboratory. The documents reveal that seven of the 12 scientists were directly connected to AFRL or institutions it funded. This creates a central funding hub connecting multiple cases. Um and so there was Monica Reza, AFRL funded her super alloy work starting in 1999 through cost-sharing contracts with Aerojet Rocketdyne. I mean, these these names of these companies are just it's like they took like these buzzwords from the things that they did and just
like put them in a cup and shook them up and grabbed words out and just was like this is what we're calling it. Aerojet Rocketdyne. Dallas Hardwick, Reza's mentor, led the AFRL Materials Directorate at Wright-Patterson overseeing Mandalay qualifications. Again, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base also a major component to this story. William McCaslin commanded AFRL from 2011 to 2013 overseeing 4.4 billion in R&D that funded Reza's work. Karl Grillmeier connected through JPL,
which is NASA, Caltech corridor where AFRL funds infrared sensing research for planetary defense. Uh that is a little difficult to read. You can see here and this is if you use web and it's actually interesting sometimes when you upload your own document sets, they will be like this like black on black and they're kind of hard to see. So, a nice little trick is to go into highlight mode. And then that puts white text on black. Um which is easy on the eyes, too. Um So, that way you can kind of look at
documents that way as well and then highlight, obviously. Um so, [clears throat] Jacob Pritchard worked at AFRL Sensors Directorate. Monica Reza's Mandalay work specifically funded by AFRL from 2011 to 2013 under McCaslin's command and those were the years that he ran the AFRL. Okay. [gasps] Special Access Programs, SAP. Uh McCaslin held critical oversight roles that connected him to highly classified programs. So, McCaslin is like the big dog in this story, honestly. Um he's he's like really central figure
to getting a lot of the funding done for a lot of these programs. Um particularly through the AFRL. So, uh he was a director of special programs at the office of Under Secretariat at the office of the Under Secretary of Defense, okay? Executive Secretary of the Special Access Program Oversight Committee, SAPOC, giving him full purview of every SAP in the Department of Defense. That is a very big job. Okay? Um That's the Department of Defense if if you don't know, that is now the Department of War. Uh that is what uh Pete Heckseth is
controlling. Um and they don't just deal with war. Um they obviously deal with a lot of the funding of these different programs. Are they um are they potentially weapons programs? Are they just uh propulsion programs, you know? It's [snorts] it's it's it's a lot left in the murky waters, right? Um so, like we said, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Network. This facility serves as a central node connecting multiple scientists. And this is Wright-Patterson if you are into UFO, UAP, you know about Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base. Uh excuse me. The historical connection, alleged repository for Roswell materials with McCaslin in charge of that exact laboratory, in quotes, okay? So, yeah, Roswell. You know? Uh that's where supposedly um you know, allegedly, supposedly, allegedly. Uh that's where these materials from the Roswell crash crash site went. Um Project Blue Book, the Air Force's UFO investigation was housed here.
National Air and Space Intelligence Center analyzes foreign aerospace systems and emergent threats. Project Blue Book. AFRL headquarters where McCaslin commanded the laboratory. So, the AFRL headquarters was actually at Wright-Patterson. And Wright-Patterson is, I believe, [snorts] um uh New Mexico. Where again Zorro Ranch was. Where a guy who funded all sorts of weird science stuff was raping children and
potentially burying them under his house. But, I mean, I don't know if there're connections there, but you never know. You never know with Jeffrey Epstein, old Jeffy boy. Uh geographic defense corridors. The documents identify three primary defense research corridors where these incidences cluster. Southern California, JPL, that's NASA, and Caltech. Uh Monica Reza, Karl Grillmeier, uh Frank Melwald, and Michael Hicks. And the connection is planetary defense infrastructure and infrared sensing research. You got to remember, too, that [snorts] um some of these things like this infrared
sensing stuff, these are all potential future uh uh you know, weapons or uh tools of war, which is why um the Department of Defense, now Department of War, uh was involved in all of this, okay? Uh Ohio, sorry. Right Wright-Patterson's in in Ohio. Uh Wright-Patterson um Dallas Hardwick, William McCaslin, the connection was central funding and oversight hub. And uh the specific defense projects and
programs, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application uh program. We all if you follow uh anything in the UFO UAP world, that is AATIP or ASAP. Um and that is uh if you follow that world, uh Lou Elizondo, the alleged uh whistleblower or you know, disclosure kind of guy who I've always been a little iffy about myself. He comes from AATIP and ASAP. Um it's a DIA program that produced 37 defense intelligence reference documents on anti-gravity, cloaking, and quantum
vacuum propulsion. Similar language to DARPA's Advanced Aerospace System Concept, AASC, program. And Hal Puthoff directed ASAP and his research was sponsored by scientists connected to these cases. So, this is where it's, you know, the the connections are sort of coming together. Right? ASAP and AATIP are very much a part of the story. And there are a lot of creators over the years who have done so much great reporting on ASAP and A tip. It's the same thing. It
was originally A tip and and then it became ASAP. Um, and then of course uh Lou Lou Elizondo uh who supposedly is a whistleblower for ASAP and A tip. Um [snorts] So, infrared sensing and planetary defense Carl Grill Mayer's NEOWISE and NEOSurveyor work has dual-use applications. Same physics that finds asteroid tracks adverse adversarial satellites and hypersonic weapons. Right? So, again like a lot of these things um could they be used for you know NASA? Could they be used for
the DOD / DOW? Um Could we be giving this to our greatest allies to vaporize um you know people in the Middle East I mean Who knows? Who knows? It's a weird weird weird thing to unravel. Um [snorts] nuclear weapons transportation Office of Secure Transportation the OST is special NNSA unit for transporting nuclear weapons and materials. Um connected to mysterious crashes and recoveries in sensitive areas. Um so you know
mysterious crashes and recoveries? What could that be? Are they weather balloons? Are they aliens? Are they weird propulsion technologies that like don't exist on Earth? Were never made by humans? Because we definitely don't have the technology and are these you know the people that have been reverse engineering it for you know upwards of 80 years since you know Roswell? I don't know who who knows a lot of this stuff is um it's it's definitely under lock and key, right? Um so all we can really do is
kind of put connections together and say well there's connections here. What are they specifically? We'll probably never know, but what we do know is there's all these weird scientists that are definitely connected um they're definitely connected and they have been dying some of them extremely mysteriously uh very convenient uh if you want to stop disclosure. Um so uh and we'll just kind of go through this a little bit you know a little little bit more quick this this session. The contractor network connections. You're going to hear a lot of names here that you already know and uh you know I don't think that that's a coincidence.
Um so we talked about this before Aerojet Rocketdyne Lockheed Martin Northrop Grumman okay these are the defense contractors who were involved in all these things and let me tell you something if you look into each one of these you'll find there's a lot more mysterious deaths that aren't scientists and some of them are that are around these particular entities. Um but you know that's for another time. Uh the UAP again that's unidentified aerial phenomenon the advanced technical research connections. The documents
reveal a pattern of connections to unconventional aerospace research. Tom DeLonge you know from Blink 182 he worked with McCaslin for four months on UFO related projects. Um and uh and you know I didn't really like that band Blink 182 very much but I love Tom DeLonge and what he's done and um you know I'm still very hesitant about him when it comes to you know is he uh um is he a useful person for uh for covering up? Is he really a part of disclosure? I mean I don't know, but the connection is there between him and McCaslin. McCaslin was described as the gatekeeper for the UFO stuff by
Congressman Tim Burchett who's still very much active. Um and uh Wright-Patterson's historical role in alleged extraterrestrial technology studies. So again they don't outright say that these guys are like reverse engineering downed alien crafts, but this has long been the theory about what these programs are why they have black budgets meaning like budgets that like Congress can't like uh audit, right? Uh we can't audit their budgets. We can't audit what they're doing with that money. Right? Um and so you know there's an
[clears throat] there's an absence of evidence there. Some would call that intentional. I wouldn't, but some people would. Um and uh DARPA project Aero 1 advanced aerospace system concepts with similar language to ASAP. Uh so now we're also getting into other government agencies like DARPA who uh you know they're into some really kooky stuff too. You know weather manipulation and potentially who knows. Um the internet uh Facebook um you know all these weird little things
that [sighs and gasps] just have an absolute stranglehold on our society. And so uh the critical pattern. The documents show this isn't random, but one documented system traceable through patent filings congressional testimony DTIC records and federal contact databases. The funding flows through AFRL to create a triangular network connecting Ohio, California and New Mexico. The probability of random distribution is less than .001% according
to this. I mean Actually let's ask let's ask Web one more question before we go. What is the prob probability that these are random occurrences or Well let's just call it random occurrences. Wonder what Web would say.
[snorts] And what do you think? Do you think that this is all just super random that we just had have like four years of mysterious deaths um that are just not linked at all? Do you think that these are like this is all super connected part of a conspiracy? Um You know I mean some people think that this is all just smoke and mirrors, right? Get us talking about UFO UAP stuff because that's the great distraction. Right? And what would we need distraction from? I don't know. This wholly unpopular war that nobody wanted
that is destroying our economy? Uh the Epstein files that um you know literally people in our government has said that if we go after these people in the files that would literally destabilize the world? I mean uh are we just are we just you know going down a trail of breadcrumbs to kind of you know take us off the scent? So to speak and to kind of get distracted? All right. I think everything's on the table personally. Oh wow this is I thought it was just going to give me
like a short answer. This will be the last one we'll kind of go through before we wrap up here because again the whole purpose of this is I kind of wanted to show you Web, but I also wanted to kind of get a primer kind of get a first look and and and a base understanding of what [snorts] the story is and as more things develop I'll put in more documents and we'll start getting more context and I will do more live streams uh about this uh because I think that this is something that it this isn't like this is not going to be done in a 90-second, you know, Instagram clip. This isn't going to be done in a 1-hour
live stream. Um this is one of those topics that I think we may never fully understand, but if more people like me and you and others start talking about it, uh maybe we can start to get a a understanding of things more, kind of like Charlie Kirk. Right? Did we just sit back and look at um what happened there and then got the, you know, the narrative and we said, "Oh, yep, that's it. But but no, like people went out and started looking at it." And you can't know, right? But we can look at what's out there and be like, "Mhm, there's some inconsistencies over here. That doesn't, you know, that
works against science. This this that and the other." And and now we're getting into the trial and people have a better understanding. So they don't get the wool pulled over their eyes. And I think that doing this, doing live streams about this, talking about this, I mean, we're not going to uncover like everything here. Um but we can sort of get a better understanding of things and we can kind of look at things and it with a better understanding. And as this develops, we have more context, right? And then we can filter that context through, you know, our own experiences, our own conspiracies or whatever. Um but I think it's important to kind of I think this is one of those topics that is actually super important, far more
important than I think uh people realize. Um so let's go into what is the probability that these are just random occurrences. This statistical analysis of probability. One, the key probability calculation. The documents contain a specific statistical assessment. Probability of random distribution around .001%. This calculation appears to be based on geospatial analysis of the three primary AFRL research corridors where these incidents cluster, okay? And there's a little map there. Uh Let me move myself here.
Uh well, I you can see. You can see what I'm talking about. There you go. Uh that map right there. Bring this back down. Okay, and those those three areas are Southern California, which is where I'm at, uh New Mexico and Ohio. The analysis argues these are not random locations, but the three geographic nodes of American defense aerospace research. That makes sense, okay? [clears throat and cough] The counterarguments and statistical skepticism. See, this is what I also love about Web. It will tell you the other side. It
doesn't just like go like, "Yeah, you're right. Everything you're saying is right. You're totally right about this, man." Oh, let's see what we have here. So over it. Thank you for, you know, engaging. You're awesome. Okay, so Elbit Systems in April 2025 signed secret contracts 2.5 billion linking one person Hang on, I forget. It's an MIT physicist. Um I believe that's uh Nuno Loureiro that you're talking about. Um who uh definitely wanted you know, I could do a whole uh live stream about him. And I wanted to do more about Amy Esrkine on this one because I know her story a little bit
more. Um I think that both of those deserve kind of like their own live streams because what they were getting into uh specifically was uh really fascinating stuff. Um but also their uh their tragic ends um are just I mean, they're just you can't even It's just it's just too much. Okay. So um uh the baseline mortality rate. NASA employs appro Again, this is the counterarguments, right? Or the uh the skeptics' side of things um looking at probabilities. NASA employs approximately 18,000 civil servants and over 40,000 contractors, right? So it's almost 60,000 people.
That's that's that's a big operation, okay? Roughly 40% of NASA science engineering staff are age 55 or older. Okay. Um US mortality rates for 55 to 64 age bracket 8 and 1/2 to 9 deaths per 1,000 people per year. Expected deaths for 10,000 NASA JPL scientists in senior age bracket statistically expect 80 to 90 deaths per year from natural causes alone. Okay. Over 3 years, 240 to 270 expected deaths from natural causes. Fair. [cough and clears throat] Fair, but let's look at the ages of these people.
Let's see if if if if these 12 fit under those age rates. I can look at it and some of them have and some of them don't. 34, that's not in the range. 61 is. 59 is. Um Anthony Chavez, it doesn't say his age. Uh Monica Ressa, 60 in the age range. Um Alyssa Cassias, 53, just under. Uh Steven Garcia, doesn't say his age. Uh Nuno Loureiro, uh 47, way under the age bracket. Um Carl, 67 in the age bracket. Uh McCaslin, 68. Jason doesn't say. Uh Jacob Pritchard, 34. Um but there's a lot of like 30s and 40s in there. Um
and so yeah, that those those aren't ages that just like you know, are dropping dead like that. Those to me kind of go against um this idea that you know, we're we're we're deal we're dealing with like natural uh death. [snorts] Um Actual perspective. An actuary notes um a What is I don't know what an actuary is. An actuary notes that nine deaths as above, even with weird causes of death and missing people, is not enough to say something weird is going on, especially in a group of 60,000 people.
But also if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck, right? Um So I don't know. Actuarial work requires a few hundred deaths to look at for statistical credibility. So what we're saying, so this actuary says that like well, if it was like a couple hundred hundred scientists, then you got something. But I mean, it's only 12 people. It's only 12 people that were totally interconnected to all of these government programs. Yeah, I mean, come on, right? [snorts] [clears throat] The analysis success suggests this is cherry-picking a few nasty deaths, missing cases out of hundreds that happen each year among tens of thousands of NASA employees.
Really? Should I start looking into these hundreds or tens of thousands of NASA employees and start seeing what other kind of connections we can find? Cuz that's what Web can do. I can get these this information. I could get it, put it up here. And we can blow this whole theory out of the water, I suspect. Or maybe it confirms it, I don't know. [snorts] But I mean, I also don't think that these 12 I I mean, it's like the two most recent people um that are being added to the list died years ago, actually. So
I think that this is just what we know right now. I think if I or anybody else dug into more people around these programs who also died, it's just these people had the mysterious deaths. But I mean, we could be in the you know, dozens or even hundreds of people that were also connected to all this that quote-unquote didn't have mysterious deaths, right? Um [snorts] I don't know. We'll see. I mean, just going off of these 12 people alone. And that's kind of the nature of things, too, is that we could spend so much time researching
and really digging in just these 12 people that it could take, even with a tool like Web, it could take an immense amount of effort and time and energy. So like how much of the big picture can one person have? I argue with a a a tool like Web far more than ever in history, but even then, it's just you know, this is how it works. They flood the zone. They flood the zone with a lot. So, um pattern recognition versus randomness. People have a very bad idea of what randomness looks like, so it's easy to take a random sequence and then just look for something in it
that looks like a pattern. Sure, I don't know who said that. Um Let's see here. Who said this? Uh it doesn't look like it says who they're quoting here, but still sure. But that's not really much of an argument. Um without predefining the pattern, it's extremely easy. So, I mean, these are people that are just picking apart the data, right? And whenever somebody does that, I like to think about this photo
of Bill Gates. It was or maybe it was even a video. Um and it's, you know, deep in the pandemic era area era and he had a book on his desk. I always found this so fascinating. Um it's literally called how to lie with statistics. He literally I mean, it was the book on his desk. He was actively looking how to lie with statistics, right? And so this kind of falls under that for me. Right? Um because data is hard to discredit, but like there are ways to discredit even reputable and
good data. Um and I think the people in the government certain apparatus in the government are very good at all you have to do is just you don't even have to discredit anything. You just need to put enough doubt in in the minds of people and that is enough to discredit something. So, I don't know. I don't see, you know, I may and I may want there to be a big conspiracy here. That should that that could be part of it, but I I just don't see these as being like strong stances to discredit this. Um I just don't think it. Uh historical
comparison, the documents draw a parallel to the GEC Marconi scientists between 1982 and 1990. And this is another big one. Um I'm I'm vaguely familiar with this, but about approximately 25 British scientists and engineers connected to defense programs died under suspicious circumstances. Each death had an individual explanation, but collectively formed a pattern. [snorts] Um it almost feels like it's like if that was a conspiracy and this is a conspiracy, this kind of almost feels like a little bit more lazy. Like they didn't even do autopsies on a lot of it or just like a lot of these people just like went missing and they wiped their phones and then just like walked out of
their house with a gun. Like, what? And then then nobody found them ever again. What? Yeah, it's it's kind of a little lazy almost. Um but, you know, that's the conspiracy theory that's my tinfoil. Um each death had an individual Oh, no, no. A velocity comparison, Marconi cases 3.1 events a year versus the AFRL, which is what this would be, uh cluster eight events a year with a run as a run rate. This represents a two and a half uh time increase in operational tempo compared to Cold War baseline. So, you got to remember too that um there is like a a large cluster of these people largely between like October and March
of this year. Um and then people are looking back and saying, oh, there are these other people as well that fit the bill that also had mysterious deaths that also were working with AFRL. Um and so now that's mounting. I suspect uh especially as uh the government, the FBI uh gets involved, um these numbers are probably going to change a lot. Um [clears throat] probably in in both directions, honestly. And who knows? I mean, it's 12 today, it could be 14 tomorrow. It could be 30 next year. Um or if Kash Patel gets in and he could
drunk tweet that there's nothing. And it didn't happen. Um but they also has a letter that um that proves that this wasn't conspiracy, but the letter was destroyed and they rebuilt it. hell. Um [snorts] so, anyway, it goes deeper into the statistics. It's not that entertaining. I get it. But now we kind of understand a little bit more about the story. And it's developing. And it's
getting legs now because now um Congress and the FBI and the White House are getting involved. Um what does that mean? You know, in the long run, I really don't know. Um I personally don't think that like uh the FBI's involvement is really going to make things any clearer. Um I don't think that Carolyn Levitt adds uh any level of credibility to anything. Nor do I think the same of Donald Trump. So, you know, we'll see. But uh
this is a very interesting story. And we have web. And web is there to help you make more sense of what you're looking at. Right? Because especially with this administration, they flood the zone with a lot of information. And if something sticks in the news cycle, it's usually for a reason. And it seems as though that they didn't want this to really stick in the news cycle. People talked about this, right? Journalists talked about this.
But it's become such a big story that now the government's talking about it. Is that a distraction? I have no idea. Um but I do know that it's important because this connects a lot of things that the government says doesn't exist. Um but totally does. Like these uh these different programs. Um there's probably all of these other programs out there that are [sighs] potentially linked. I don't know.
But what I do know is that this is weird. This is really weird. And whether it's a purposeful distraction or an emerging story that uh that the people are keeping alive. Um If this is just a useful thing for the government. Uh I really don't know. I really don't know. I don't really trust much of anything. But I do think that this story has legs. Um and I think that if more people spend a little bit of their time
looking into these stories with these types of tools that help them sift through the information and get a better understanding of things, then I think um I think we could collectively get a little bit of a better understanding of what's going on. Um and maybe this you know, as more people dig into this, more journalists dig into this, uh more, you know, people like you and I who are maybe not journalists, um or just normal people, right? Talking about it, we're keeping the story alive. You know, like I said, think like Charlie Kirk. Like that whole
incident. Right? If you don't let them sweep it under the rug, you don't let them flood the zone, um you kind of keep your eye on the story and the developments, um more will come out. And more will uh and hopefully we'll have more of of an understanding of things. So, that's all we can really do. Um, you know, this is probably one of those stories like there's no like people really love like a single person or agency or thing to point the finger at and say, "They did it."
I think with stories like this, it's far more complicated than that. You know? I mean are these are these people being silenced because of NASA or some sort of American government program? I have no idea. Is this, you know, are are these like our adversaries like China or Russia? Are they doing it because, you know, these people have or have [clears throat] you know, an idea about a certain technology that they're coming up like I who knows? In this world [sighs and gasps] who knows, right? So, I I I I don't know if we have like a single
thing to point to and say "They did it. They're evil." You know, that's a conspiracy. When there isn't just like one single thing to point to and say "Guilty." It's a conspiracy, right? And I think this has the legs of being a conspiracy. And so you know use Web. If stories like this are interesting to you get documents. Use AI to find the documents for you. Put them in a folder and put that folder into Web just like I did. And start asking questions.
Because everything starts with a question. All of it. Every investigation, every story starts with a question. So, gather documents, put them in the Web, start asking questions. And you will be surprised what you find out. And just start pulling those threads, right? Just start pulling the threads. So that was my first live stream on this channel. And uh we went for about an hour and a half. I wanted to go like an hour. We went an hour and a half. Um may not be the most entertaining cuz I'm just reading a lot of stuff here.
[gasps] But you know we'll we'll do more. It'll be more entertaining over time. If you liked it, um you know, let me know. If you have if you have any constructive criticism, let me know. Uh you know what? I want to go through I have some more uh people um that have come in here. Uh Black Saw Studios, something is ties them together too narrow of a population to discount. That's exactly what I'm saying. Like that's I agree. I just you know, I think in this world I think like the world is full of coincidences. I don't think that this is a coincidence. So, I don't think when
you're dealing with things that are so sensitive that are um you know, like alien technology and these sort of things that uh are potential edges for like our country compared to other countries, I just I don't I I just, you know, maybe I watched too many movies. I don't know. I don't think there's any coincidences here. All right. So, I'm with you Black Saw Studio. [clears throat] Something is tying them all together. And I think we know what it is. Um I think it's I think it's right there in front of us. We just need to use Web and um I think we need to
start finding those threads that connect everything together. Um so, over at Soldier Born Mission Command it all links to Project Lotus. My ADD takes me down many rabbit holes. I am a narrow spicy as Super ADHD um and that's why I love Web. It's a really great tool for people with ADHD um or ADD. Uh so, yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you there. Uh and uh I feel everything connects in some way. Um Kind of like they flooded the zone,
Charlie's fateful day to distract people. My eyes don't forget. Time to make dinner. Boom. Hey, thank you so much So Over It. You're like my first like my first real person like on this channel. So, uh I appreciate it. And uh I I want to do like a few live streams a week. Um you know, about different stuff. Uh but yeah, this is this is a lot of fun, you know. Um and I really enjoy it. So, uh thank you for being here. And uh thank you for, you know, everybody who's come in. It's not a lot of people, but I literally just made this uh this Twitch channel like literally
just made it. So, uh you know super thank you. Oh, Swedish Sausage, great stream. Can't wait to catch the next one. Thank you. I really appreciate that, you know. Um and hey, if uh if I can uh fill the void um with uh Ian's absence you know, all the better, right? Um but, you know, we'll be here to talk about weird conspiracies um you know, aliens all sorts of weird fun stuff. Um you know, it's it's you know, I I I don't want this to be doom and gloom. I want this to be like let's have some fun. Let's have some fun and and learn some truth here. But with that said I'm going to go walk my dog.
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